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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #724
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- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 30 Jun 94 Volume 94 : Issue 724
-
- Today's Topics:
- help
- Help! What is it?
- Help with No Scratch mag mount
- New Amateur Needs Propagation Info... (2 msgs)
- Repeaters in Nevada & central Ca.
- SAREX QSL CARDS STS-58
- simnplex on two meter
- Speaking of old callbooks-Need 1960
- Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C? (3 msgs)
- You Know It's Time to Retire
-
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- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 15:17:48 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ufl.edu!alpha.ee.ufl.edu!mikel@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: help
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Hi all:
- I have had a rather destructive weekend for my 2m
- gear and hoping that someone can give some help / suggestions.
- In my shack I HAD :-( both an OLD HR2 crystal controlled rig and
- an ICOM 27A. I usually use the HR2 for local repeater work and
- the 27A for satellite and packet work. On Friday evening I was
- chatting with a local friend on our repeater, and after a few
- minutes into the QSO I began to notice that when I would TX that
- a TV in the room would RX a lot of interference. A few more
- transmissions and then the rig would not TX any more but would
- still RX. At the time I figured no big deal, it was old rig and
- I had had to repair it before. BUT.....Then on Sunday I was trying
- to use the IC27 ( albiet in an unusual way ) and this rig
- died in about the same manner. I must say that I was trying to
- use the IC27 for CW (its really an FM rig). I had hooked a
- key to the PTT lines and was communicating with another amateur
- in order to have him evaluate the signal quality. We had
- about a 5 minute QSO which consisted of my changing the mic
- connector back and forth from CW to FM. I changed back over
- to the CW connector and then nothing! Rig still RX but will
- not transmit. I called ICOM to see if there would be any
- problems with working the rig in this manner, and their
- technical support person felt that it would not harm the rig.
-
- My antenna setup is pretty simple, from a single push-up pole
- I have a 2m 1/4 wave ground plane at the top, and a 2m 4 el.
- beam about 6 ft below that. One end of a 40m dipole is also
- connected to the top of the pole with about 2ft of nylon
- rope. And RECENTLY added a 10m sloper also connected to the
- top of the pole.
-
- So heres my question, did Murphy just get me all at once, or
- are these things inter-related? Could the addition of the
- 10m dipole have caused this type of destruction. I havent
- recently checked the VHF ant SWR but when installed they were
- both 2:1 or below. Possibly I killed the IC27 because I was
- changing mic connections with the power still on? Maybe the
- ICOM couldnt really handle being operated in CW?
-
- Anyway the rigs are all under repair, and I want to hear
- what some of you think BEFORE I set them back up!
-
- Thanks for any help, es 73 de Mike n4oly
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 13:11:35 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!agate!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!cleveland.Freenet.Edu!at626@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Help! What is it?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I bought this at a thrift store. I'va always wanted one. The only qustion
- I have is, what is it? Front panel says:
-
- Lotus FM Receiver
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:55:55 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu!csn!col.hp.com!gregt@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Help with No Scratch mag mount
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Jeff Kashinsky (jeff@sec.sel.sony.com) wrote:
- : I have a Larsen NMO mag mount and the plastic on the bottom is ripped. The
- : magnet has started scratching the car paint.
-
- : Suggestions of what to use to replace the plastic would be appreciated.
-
-
- I just rebuilt a mag mount purchased at a swapfest for $2 and ran
- across the perfect stuff for the bottom:
-
- At the local supermarket, I found a package (two 8-1/2x11 sheets)
- of plastic for laminating cards, pictures, etc. It is reasonably thin,
- almost too thin for laminating, but has an adhesive backing. Rough
- out a piece, stick it on and trim with scissors or a sharp knife.
-
- Use some of the remainder for laminating a copy of your license!
-
-
- Ignore those replys suggesting trading minor scratches for a
- permanent advertisement of radio gear in your vehicle.
-
- Greg Tarcza
-
- ==========================================================================
- Greg Tarcza WA2OOD /
- Hewlett-Packard Company Pikes /
- P.O. Box 2197 Peak /-, /-,
- Colorado Springs, CO 80901 Soaring / / / /
- 719-590-2471 Society / / /--/
- /
- gregt@col.hp.com /
- ==========================================================================
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 04:40:13 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!lerc.nasa.gov!kira.cc.uakron.edu!malgudi.oar.net!witch!doghouse!jsalemi@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: New Amateur Needs Propagation Info...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
-
- In article <Cs4u0M.n2M@serval.net.wsu.edu>, Kent Jones (kjones@spookey.eecs.wsu.edu) writes:
- >I have a strong interest in propagation and am specifically interested in
- >finding source code/articles/books related to HF propagation prediction.
- >
-
- Well, the formulas are pretty complex, but the best place to start
- learning about propagation is from the book "The Shortwave Propagation
- Handbook," put out by CQ magazine. Well workth the money.
-
- 73...joe
-
-
-
- ----------
- Joe Salemi, KR4CZ Internet: jsalemi@doghouse.win.net
- Compuserve: 72631,23 FidoNet: 1:109/136 MCI Mail: 433-3961
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 07:52
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!uhog.mit.edu!nntp.club.cc.cmu.edu!news.mic.ucla.edu!MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU!CSMSCST@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: New Amateur Needs Propagation Info...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <346@doghouse.win.net>,
- jsalemi@doghouse.win.net (Joe Salemi) writes:
-
- >
- >In article <Cs4u0M.n2M@serval.net.wsu.edu>, Kent Jones (kjones@spookey.eecs.wsu.edu) writes:
- >>I have a strong interest in propagation and am specifically interested in
- >>finding source code/articles/books related to HF propagation prediction.
- >>
- >
- >Well, the formulas are pretty complex, but the best place to start
- >learning about propagation is from the book "The Shortwave Propagation
- >Handbook," put out by CQ magazine. Well workth the money.
- >
-
- W3ASK's handbook is a good first start, although it's fairly basic,
- and unfortunately rather dated (1979). I've heard rumors of an
- updated version being in the works.
-
- If you're really interested in the math, I'd recommend:
-
- Ionospheric Radio Propagation, Kenneth Davies, National Bureau of
- Standards Monograph 80, 1965, 470 pages
- or
- Ionospheric Radio, Kenneth Davies, Peter Peregrinus Ltd, London,
- 1990, IBSN 0 86341 186 X, 578 pages
-
- The first is almost impossible to find these days, except
- perhaps in a good library. The second is available, but (like
- all low-production technical books these days, expensive !!) There
- is material in the monograph which is not in the 1990 rework, so
- one should really have both. These are deeply technical, not for
- the faint hearted.
-
- Also, a brand new book:
-
- Radio Amateurs Guide to the Ionosphere, Leo McNamara, Kreiger
- Publishing, Malabar, Florida, 1994, 166 pages.
-
- This is a large-format paperback which is a rework of the
- hardcopy book, The Ionosphere, by the same author, with some
- additional material of interest to hams. You can purchase it
- (ca $40) directly from Kreiger. I don't have their phone nr
- handy, but their address is PO Box 9542, Melbourne FL 32902.
- It's a little less mathematical that Davies' books, hence an
- easier read, but still very valuable. I recommend it highly.
-
- You want to get and hang onto anything you can find written by
- Bob Brown, NM7M; the guy's a genius. He has a paper, "Long-Path
- Propagation" which is well worth reading. (Available from NM7M
- for the cost of printing, $5 or $10 I think).
-
- Lastly, I'd recommend getting a copy of Miniprop Plus 2.0, the
- canonical propagation program by W6EL, and using it a lot. That
- will teach you a great deal. Miniprop is (IMHO) by far the best
- of the prediction pgms available to amateurs. And Shel is a heck
- of a nice guy. One can sometime run across Bob and Shel chatting
- on 40m. See Miniprop adds in QST, CQ, etc.
-
- I also have several pieces of s/w from the Solar Teresterial
- Dispatch folk, including their new Skycom. Skycom is gee-whiz,
- but expensive, and I have yet to see it do anything actually
- useful (as opposed to merely cute.)
-
- Finally, you might consider a periodic prayer to the Sun Gods,
- for some spots once in a while, so that propgation becomes more
- than a theoretical subject... Next couple of years are gonna be
- pretty grim in this regard. See pg 128 in the July CQ for a
- nice graph on when things might start getting fun again.
-
- -- 73 de Chris Thomas, AA6SQ (ex-WA6HTJ) (CSMSCST@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 08:37:20
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!gatech!news.byu.edu!news.provo.novell.com!novell.com!JMessing@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Repeaters in Nevada & central Ca.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I am taking a trip to Fresno, Ca. From SLC, Utah via I-15 through Las Vegas,
- Nevada; Barstow and Bakersfield, Ca. I am looking for Repeater frequencies in
- these areas on 2Meter or 70cm bands. Any information that you could provide
- would be greatly appreciated.
-
- Thanks in advance,
-
- Jeff M.
- --------------------------------------------------------
- Jeff Messinger - KB7VRP
- Internet: Jmessing@novell.com
- Disclaimer: The opinions expressed here are solely mine.
- Besides who else would want to claim them.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 14:42:31 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!news-feed-1.peachnet.edu!news.duke.edu!eff!cs.umd.edu!news.coop.net!news.den.mmc.com!iplmail.orl.mmc.com!mccartney!jcarter@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: SAREX QSL CARDS STS-58
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- >Subject: ANS-303 BULLETINS
-
- >If you heard or worked the STS-58 station of KC5ACR or W5RRR-1 and you
- >would like to receive a QSL card, then please send your QSL card to the
- >following address: ARRL, STS-58 QSL, 225 Main Street, Newington, CT, 06111.
- >Plese allow for up to 6-10 Months for the STS-58 SAREX Mission QSL card to
- >be mailed.
-
- One Sunday morning STS-58 came over my house in Orlando, Florida. I had been
- tracking it on NASA Select TV all morning. I got a great copy of KC5ACR
- talking to Panama and other stations in the southeast. I tried to contact
- them but there were too many other HAMs in there.
-
- I sent a position and signal report to ARRL for my QSL card about 8 months
- ago! To this day I have still not received it.
-
- Why does it take so long just to send out cards?
-
- Has anyone out there had this same problem?
-
- ___ _____ _______
- /_ /| /____/ \ /______/| James A. Carter | Jcarter@orl.mmc.com
- __ | | | / __ \/| | ____|/ FCC LIC. KD4PON | These views are my own and
- /_/|_| | | | (/_) | | | | |___ Martin Mariettia | are in no way connected
- | |/_| | | | ___ | | | |/__ /| 1-(407)356-5879 | to MARTIN MARIETTIA
- |______|/ |_|/ |_|/ |_____|/ Orlando, FL 32855 | Thanks Jim
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 06:50:59 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!crcnis1.unl.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!mcduffie@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: simnplex on two meter
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- etuggle@auc.trw.com (Eddie D. Tuggle) writes:
-
- >raymondd@powertech.no (Raymond Dalen) wrote the following in a previous article:
-
- >I read another post that said it is common in other parts of the
- >U.S. I guess we just don't do it in Colorado. I think it would
- >be better, however, to say CQ instead of "blah blah blah monitoring."
- >It just seems more to the point. Don't ya think?
-
- To a certain extent, I would agree. However, many times, I come on
- with "AG0N monitoring", not as a CQ, but as a simple comment that I am
- back in the vehicle, in case someone had been looking for me while I
- was away from the radio. Most of the time, this in no way implies
- that I want to talk to someone, it is just to let them know I'm there.
-
- I fully agree that if CQ is what you mean, CQ is what you should use.
- It just makes good sense.
-
- 73, Gary
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 06:45:51 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!newsfeed.ksu.ksu.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!crcnis1.unl.edu!unlinfo.unl.edu!mcduffie@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Speaking of old callbooks-Need 1960
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- If anyone has access to a 1960 callbook, I would appreciate and gladly
- pay all copying costs for the page showing WV6MDL. A good copy would
- be preferred, but at this stage, I'll take anything.
-
- Email me if you have access, please.
-
- 73, Gary
- mcduffie@hannibal.wncc.cc.ne.us <-- preferred account
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 94 13:17:38 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- geez, people make this so complicated.
-
- C = 1.8 (F-32).
-
- bill wb9ivr
- rockwell avionics/collins
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 94 14:22:05 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!vixen.cso.uiuc.edu!aries!hawley@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- tomb@lsid.hp.com (Tom Bruhns) writes:
-
- >Robin Ludlow (as041@FreeNet.Carleton.CA) wrote:
-
-
- >: In a previous article, awinterb@du.edu (Art Winterbauer) says:
-
- >: >Does anyone know of a source for a quick temperature conversion chart
- >: >between F and C? I can't recall the formula (or where to find it), and
- >: >would just like a way to rapidly convert between the two scales when
- >: >in QSO.
-
- >: Art...we have been living with this for more than a decade here in
- >: Canada...a VERY rough quick conversion is double the C and add it to 32 F.
-
- >: Example: 10 degrees C x 2 = 20 + 32 =~ 52 degrees F.
- >: 10 degrees C is actually 50 degrees F but you can see how close it is.
-
- >Heh, heh, an even easier way to solve the whole problem would be for
- >us Americans to just drop F, then there would be no need for conversions.
- >(Easy for me to say--I was trained as a chemist. What the heck is
- >degrees F?? ;-) Does anyone in the world besides us use F??
-
- >73, K7ITM
- Double the C and subtract 10%......then add 32. That's exact, and easy
- to do.
-
-
- .....NO USER SERVICEABLE PARTS INSIDE.....
-
- Chuck Hawley.....KE9UW.....Urbana, Illinois
- hawley@aries.scs.uiuc.edu
- School of Chemical Sciences, Electronic Services
- University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 16:13:04 GMT
- From: nothing.ucsd.edu!brian@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Temp. Conversion Chart: F & C?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Why not have your thermometer calibrated in both C and F? You can use
- it as a nomograph AND get the right temperature. I know the USA is
- about the only country left that uses degrees F, but even here you can
- find dual-calibrated thermometers even in the dimestore.
- - Brian
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 12:56:05 GMT
- From: newsgw.mentorg.com!srp!jbate@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: You Know It's Time to Retire
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article 1@woods.uml.edu, martinja@woods.uml.edu (JJ Martin) writes:
- >You know it's time to retire from the hobby when:
- >
- >Shortly after obtaining your callsign "KA5MWD" and using the phonetics
- >"Mississippi Water Department" or something similar, your XYL gives birth
- >to twins and every ham for miles around dubbs you "Many Wet Diapers."
- >P.S. One harmonic was already running loose in the shack - in diapers.
-
-
- I've got 4 harmonics running around. The only time I can get on the air
- is late in the evening (if I'm not exhausted) or early
- in the morning when everyone is supposed to be asleep. The morning
- seems to be a good time until the hamsters turn on Big Bird and Grover.
- The morning is a bad time if I have to get up more than 3 times during then
- night (less is OK since I never quite wake up).
-
- Good luck,
-
- 73's,
- john, ki7hs/4
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: (null)
- From: (null)
- All pointers appreciated. Mail me and I'll summarize.
-
- Thanks!
-
- dave.
- --
- Dave Strout <at626@cleveland.freenet.edu>
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Jun 1994 13:14:25 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!gatech!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!newsrelay.iastate.edu!news.iastate.edu!wjturner@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <Cs66G3.HLt@utnetw.utoledo.edu>, <2usiq1$gb7@news.iastate.edu>, <Cs7Mso.9Jt@news.ess.harris.com>
- Subject : Re: License Renewal
-
-
- For all the idiots out there who cannot read:
-
- The commentary was separated from the regs. The commentary did not
- mention anything about submitting an application. (The regs did, but
- that is a separate issue.) Th commentary was clearly stating an either
- or situation, with nothing at all about an application being submitted.
- The original reply was meant as a joke to point out that it *should*
- have been included. (But, it wasn't.)
-
- Don't accuse someone of not being able to read what is not written if
- you are unable to catch the sarcasm that was virtually leaping of the
- page (or screen) at you!
-
-
- Some people should quit griping on every little thing someone says as a
- joke and GET A LIFE!!!!!!!!!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 12:31:35 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!emory!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!news.ess.harris.com!news@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2uqn3t$32t@tymix.Tymnet.COM>,<2urr63$7jb@news.iastate.edu>, <Cs66G3.HLt@utnetw.utoledo.edu>, <2usiq1$gb7@news.iastate.edu>
- Subject : Re: License Renewal
-
- In article <2usiq1$gb7@news.iastate.edu>, wjturner@iastate.edu (William J. Turner) says:
- >
- >
- >In article <Cs66G3.HLt@utnetw.utoledo.edu>, pouelle@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
- >|> In article <2urr63$7jb@news.iastate.edu>, wjturner@iastate.edu (William J. Turner) writes:
- >|> >
- >|> >In article <2uqn3t$32t@tymix.Tymnet.COM>, flanagan@niagara.Tymnet.COM (Dick Flanagan) writes:
- >|> >|> In other words, you may continue to operate until you eventually receive
- >|> >|> your renewed license =OR= until you are notified by the FCC that it was
- >|> >|> not renewed.
- >|> >
- >|> >So, if you never renew and you never *tell* the FCC you didn't renew,
- >|> >you can operate forever? (Yeah, right!)
- >|>
- >|> Don't you read? The first line starts with : WHEN THE LICENSEE HAS SUBMITTED
- >|> A TIMELY APPLICATION FOR RENEWAL
- >
- >Yes, the regs said that, but the commentary did not! *That* is what my
- >comment is about!!!!!!!!!
-
- So in the commentary (where you did not assume that timely submittal of an
- application was implied), you thought it meant that the FCC might send you a
- renewed license [the part about "...until you eventually receive your
- renewed..."] without submitting an application. Why didn't you ding him on
- that? If I couldn't see your two last names, I'd suspect you were siblings.
- You sound just like my children.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Thu, 30 Jun 1994 13:24:04 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!library.ucla.edu!europa.eng.gtefsd.com!newsxfer.itd.umich.edu!jobone!ukma!rsg1.er.usgs.gov!dgg.cr.usgs.gov!bodoh@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <2uqces$bjk@usenet1.sjc.in.sel.sony.com>, <edh.772904725@hpuerca>, <rafaels.25.000BBDC2@zimmer.csufresno.edu>sg1
- Subject : Re: Help with No Scratch mag mount
-
- |> >>I have a Larsen NMO mag mount and the plastic on the bottom is ripped. The
- |> >>magnet has started scratching the car paint.
- |> >>Suggestions of what to use to replace the plastic would be appreciated.
- |>
- |> >3. With either the correct size hole saw or a hole punch (punch
- |> > requires pulling down the headliner), put a properly sized
- |> > hole in the middle of your roof (you can use the scratch marks
- |> > from previous use of mag mount as a guide).
- |>
- |> Poor Jeff, he was asking for advice on how not to scratch his car paint and
- |> ends up with a hole in the roof!
- |>
-
- I thought it was very good advice. Some people use magnetic mounts so they
- can easily move from car to car - or be able to avoid theft. For those folks
- magnetic is best. Other folks say they don't want to deface/devalue their
- cars by making a hole, so they use magnetic mounts. Later, they have scuffing
- and scratching problems. Sometimes vandals give the cord a yank and really
- mess things up.
-
- I opted to drill a hole. Vandals are more likely to leave it alone if there
- is not a handy cord to yank. The hole does not devalue the car if you plug
- it with a cellular antenna when you trade/sell it. If a dealer tries to
- mark down your trade, find a good dealer.
-
- On my van, vandals would have to climb up on the hood or roof so they are
- likely to look for easier targets. Bye...
-
- --
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
- + Tom Bodoh - Section Manager, Systems Engineering and Management, Hughes STX +
- + USGS/EROS Data Center, Sioux Falls, SD, USA 57198 (605) 594-6830 +
- + Internet; bodoh@dgg.cr.usgs.gov (152.61.192.66) Amateur radio call; N0YGT +
- + "Welcome back my friends to the show that never ends!" EL&P +
- +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-
- ------------------------------
-
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